Minutes of the National Flying Club 168 meetings and the Committee
Meeting held on Wednesday
10th March 2004 at the Gainsborough House Hotel,
Bewdley
Road, Kidderminster
Members Present:-Mr. F. J. Sharman,
President; Mr. R. Harding, Honorary Treasurer; Mr. J. Tyreman; Mr. B. Stansfield; Mr. J. Edwards; Mr. M. McGrevy; Mr. K.
Hanby; Mr. R. King; Mr. G. J. W. Titmuss M.B.E.; Mr. E. Watkins; Mr. R. Scriven;
Mr. R. Green; Mr. P. O’Leary; Mr. F. Bloor; Mr. P. Naum; Mr. N. Henley; Mr. K.
Hine. Also attending were: - Mr. C. Bates, Chief Convoyer; Mr. G. Allen, Reserve
Convoyer;
Mr. L. Parkinson, Press Officer.
Apologies were received from: - Mr. J. Roberts; Mr. D. Reid; Mr. E. Froggatt; Mr. J. R. Sutton; Mr. S. Dangerfield.
The President opened the 168 proceedings/meetings at 10.00am.
Mr K Hine Greivance
The President asked for Mr. K. Hine to state his grievance. After a lengthy discussion, the President asked all interested parties to
leave. The President also asked that
the co-opted members leave the meeting. After careful consideration, it was
proposed and seconded to find against Mr. K. Hine for the reason that Mr. K.
Hine couldn’t give a R.P.R.A rule, which is being broken, and that there is no
R.P.R.A. rules governing the voting of the co-opted members. It is also highlighted that five of the co-opted members are marking
station I/c’s / helpers with two being life vice presidents. All parties were asked back into the meeting and were informed of the
decision. The President informed Mr. K. Hine under R.P.R.A. rule 171, if he
feels aggrieved by the committees decision he has the right of appeal to the
North East region within 21 days of the decision.
Mr. G. Inkley Grievance
The President asked Mr. G. Inkley to state his case. Various questions
were asked. After a lengthy discussion, the President asked all interested
parties to leave the room. After careful consideration, it was proposed and
seconded to find against Mr. G. Inkley for the reason that there is no case to
answer.
Mr D. Bacon Grievances
The President informed the meeting of a letter received from Mr. D.
Bacon stating that he not be attending the meeting due to suffering from flu. He apologises to the President and the Committee.
Re Mr. D. Bacon and his first grievance regarding the race advisor, it
was proposed and seconded to find against Mr. D. Bacon because there is no case
to answer.
Re Mr. D. Bacon and his second grievance regarding the Dax race. After
careful consideration, it was proposed and seconded to find against Mr. D. Bacon
because it doesn’t break any RPRA rules. The
President instructed the Secretary to write to Mr. D. Bacon informing him of the
decision and of RPRA rule 171.
Mr.
M. Shepherd Grievances
The President read out in full a further letter received from Mr. M.
Shepherd which stated that he will not be attending etc. This letter was
photocopied and handed to every committee member.
Re grievance 1. After
careful consideration, it was proposed and seconded to find against Mr. M.
Shepherd for the reason that there is no case to answer.
It was proposed and seconded to find in favour of Mr. M. Shepherd
because some of the grievance rules mentioned are believed to be broken. This was defeated.
Re grievance 2. It was
proposed and seconded to find against Mr. M. Shepherd because there is no case
to answer. Re grievance 3. It was
proposed and seconded to find against Mr. M. Shepherd because there is no case
to answer. This was carried.
It was proposed and seconded for Mr. K. Hanby and Mr. M. McGrevy to
represent the club at the North East region meetings.
The President closed the RPRA rule 168 meetings and opened the committee
meeting at 11.40 hrs.
Main Committee Meeting
Minutes
of the Previous Meetings held on Wednesday 4th February 2004.
It was highlighted that the vote on the 168 meeting re Mr. J. Tyreman
was only to find in favour, his co-option onto the committee occurred in the
following meeting. It was proposed and seconded to pass the minutes as a true record.
Carried.
Matters
Arising
After much discussion it was clarified that proposition 8 was ruled out
of order at the AGM and wouldn’t be in the handbook.
It was clarified that the correspondence from Pelsall was a request for
a marking station and not to do with the clock station.
It was suggested to move away from West
Farnborough marking station to a venue close to Reading. Shinfield was suggested. It
was proposed and seconded for the President to look into this.
A discussion took place regarding the costs of sending trophies out to
members who hadn’t attended the presentation. It was proposed and seconded to place a note in the handbook stating that
those members not attending the presentation will have to send for the trophies
and pay for their carriage including the replicas. This was carried.
The meeting was informed of the correspondence and the agreements made
with the B.I.C.C. for the Dax International race re the transport etc.
Correspondence
Mr. R. Harding read out the correspondence received from Mr. D. Higgins, Secretary NE Region RPRA
regarding an appeal from Mr. K. Hine on the co-opting of Mr. J. Tyreman and Mr.
P. O’Leary onto the National Flying Club committee. After some discussion, it was proposed and seconded Mr. K. Hanby and Mr.
M. McGrevy to represent the National Flying Club at the North East region
meeting. This was carried.
Two letters were received from Mr. Batterbee with reference to certain
letters in the fancy press. It was proposed and seconded to write back to Mr
Batterbee, thanking him for his correspondence and that his letter has been
noted.
After a lengthy discussion, it was proposed and seconded to publish the
minutes without the voting. This was
carried with all being in favour. The
Secretary and the Press Officer will compile.
A letter from Mr. D. Payne with regard to the letters in the fancy press
was also received and was noted.
The
Palace Hotel, Buxton, Derbyshire.
Mr. Rod Harding, Honorary Treasurer informed the meeting that he had
received the files from regarding the presentation. The meeting were informed
that the club has received an invoice for £6,885.00 for cancellation charges. The Treasurer has taken legal advice and went through every detail etc.
including having a lengthy meeting with the hotel representatives and the club
has received a certain reduction of a few hundred pounds.
It was proposed and seconded to form a committee to organise for future
presentations. The committee will
consist of Fred Sharman, Doreen Kneller, Nobby Henley, John Tyerman, Rod Harding. It was proposed and seconded for the price of
the tickets to be £30.00.
British
Homing World.
It was proposed and seconded to ask the Editor of the BHW not to publish
correspondence non members of the NFC from writing letters on the NFC that were
derogatory and the inaccurate letters. It
will also be requested whether or not it is possible to include Membership
Numbers on the letters.
RPRA 168 Meetings Costs.
A lengthy discussion took place regarding the costs involved in holding
168 meetings, which have been called for no apparent reason.No outcome had been reached.
NFC Website
Mr P O’Leary informed the meeting of the discussion page and the
advancements made through having a moderator. It has resulted in a better and more gentlemanly discussion. A vote of
thanks was given to P. O’Leary.
Any
Other Business
It was proposed and seconded to accept all new members. Carried
Mr. N. Henley spoke on committee members accepting the vote outcome etc.
etc. Mr. L. Parkinson informed the meeting regarding the auction sale of the
pigeons.
It was proposed and seconded for all the race point propositions to be
placed on a separate sheet on their own and only a positive vote recorded and
only one vote counted for that group of race points or the vote is void. This was carried with all in favour.
